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Old 09-05-2005, 09:52 AM
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http://www.townhall.com/columnists/phyllisschlafly/ps20050905.shtml
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Family court ruling wounds National Guardsman in the heart
Phyllis Schlafly (archive)


September 5, 2005

Gallant Americans are risking life and limb in Iraq to defend home and country. But they never dreamed they might lose their children, too.

When Army National Guard Spc. Joe McNeilly of Grand Ledge, Mich., came home after 15 months in Iraq, he found that a family court "referee" had taken away his joint custody of his 10-year-old son and given full custody and control to the boy's mother.

For five years, McNeilly had had a 50-50 no-problem custody arrangement with his ex-girlfriend Holly Erb. When called up to go to Iraq, he gave her temporary full custody while he was overseas.

While he was gone, Erb persuaded a family court to make her full custody permanent. When McNeilly protested, he was told that his year-long absence constituted abandonment and produced custody "points" against him.

"You want to make a soldier cry, you take his son away," McNeilly said. "It's devastating."
Michigan State Rep. Rick Jones became interested in this injustice. When he contacted the Judge Advocate General's office, he discovered that there are 15 to 20 similar cases in Michigan and it is a common problem all over the United States.

Jones has introduced legislation (HB 5100) providing that absences for military service cannot be used against a parent and that a permanent custody arrangement cannot be established while a parent is on active duty. He is hearing from legislators in other states who want to sponsor similar bills.

Since McNeilly's case was reported in the press, Erb's lawyer and the court's representative are trying to claim that depriving him of his father's rights wasn't because he was serving in Iraq, but because of his poor parenting skills.

The proof? McNeilly sent a couple of postcards to his son that showed soldiers training with a gun. Horrors! How un-politically correct to tell a son that soldiers in Iraq carry guns.
Erb's lawyer asserted that the postcards frightened the boy and showed that McNeilly is not a fit parent. But surely the boy had a right to know about his father's career and that soldiers who use guns are pursuing an honorable vocation.

The referee's report also justified deciding for mother custody because she was the "day-to-day caretaker and decision maker in the child's life" while McNeilly was deployed. But that's what mothers have always done when their men go off to war and it's no argument for taking the child away from his father upon return.
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(After this point, she goes on a rant, that while justified, doesn't add any new or information or insight.)
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Old 09-05-2005, 11:01 AM
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Sickening. As long as we continue to treat soldiers like a necessary evil that should be kept from view, we will continue to have soldiers mistreated by the courts and society in general. People who oppose the war say "We love the troops, we just don't like this war". Heck, I say that. But when decision like this get made, it turns that statement into a lie.

Also, doesn't anyone find it extremely odd that drawing a picture of a gun or holding up your finger and saying "bang" or wearing a plastic axe with your halloween costume can get you suspended. Meanwhile, almost every game in the local arcade is a shoot-em-up. I remember the days of Pac Man and Asteroids and Space Invaders. Now there are mostly one-on-one karate games and shooting games. Hundreds of games on Playstation and X-Box concentrate on violence and death. What kind of fucked up message are we sending our children when we tell them that soldiers with weapons are so offensive that you will be removed from school for even drawing a picture of one, but it is OK to go home and blast away your opponents in a rousing game of Halo?



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Old 09-05-2005, 11:33 AM
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Miserable bastards. I would have thought that the judgement couldn't have been made in his absence, let alone when he was absent because he was serving in the forces overseas. This sort of thing makes me sick.
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Old 09-05-2005, 01:41 PM
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That is so messed up it is beyond belief.

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Old 09-05-2005, 01:57 PM
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Again I am amazed (and disgusted) at the idiocy of others.
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Old 09-06-2005, 04:06 AM
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I have no words to express how this disgusts me.

This is not the way to treat one of our soldiers.
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Old 09-06-2005, 01:01 PM
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This is par for the course in Michigan. What the mother asks for the mother gets 90% of the time and the man loses based on that fact that he is a man essentially. The laws are written to basically castrate him of any parental rights unless he live's a saints life and coughs up about 30% of every paycheck to the mother of the child for her to spend as she sees fit. (Say on crank and beer for example...)

I have seen drug abusing, do nothing, incompetent mothers retain their custody of children against honest, hard working, good fathers on no other grounds then that the state laws state that the mother is to be grossly favored.

Basically in MI a custody lawyer doesn't have to be very good at his job to win if he's on the lady's side of the arguement and in many cases the lady won't even need a lawyer. The judge will advocate for her of their own accord...
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:41 AM
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This is par for the course all over the USA. What the mother asks for the mother gets 90% of the time and the man loses based on that fact that he is a man essentially.

This isn't sad, it's not even terrible. It is a travesty of justice. No offense to any of you women or moms out there, but unless the mother is living on the street, a junkie, or been arrested a thousand times, she will always get her way where the kids are concerned.

This custody case is sickening. It shows how much the government systems honor those that are forced to defend this country. I do say forced since if a person is in the active military, it's not a choice for them. Anyone not in the military has the choice.

I don't need to show the rewards they get. This article says it all.

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Old 09-07-2005, 12:45 PM
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The goofy thing is that the pronounced bias in favour of women in family court is largely based on a falacious study that was not only methodologically flawed, but actually had mathematical errors in the data analysis...

http://www.abs-comptech.com/~aewhale/2020_000107_baddads_trans.html
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